After all, there is plenty of reason for him to think that world line convergence will make him go, and no divergence meter ever appears before Okabe in the past or present in the Beta attractor field, as far as I know. and Nitroplus after Chaos;Head. Subject: Are you being honest? […] An unstable world line that is described as being separate from the Steins Gate world line by a divergence difference of 0.0000001%. Both the PhoneWave and time leap machine exist but there is no sign of SERN or the Rounders. and alteration of people's memories I'm going to write my answer from the beginning, though, because that will make explaining things easier for me. I guess this is one of her scientist traits. It is interesting to note that in the visual novel, the theory of having multiple existing Word Lines at once is brought up, but has been replaced by the new theory. That value skyrockets in the face of war, major acts of terrorism, etc. I think just like how Suzuha's act of traveling to the past could not change the world's attractor field in the Alpha world lines, because even her act has a cause and effect and is caught in the convergence. With this, Kurisu manages to bring Rintaro back to the Steins Gate world line and the movie ends with Rintaro asking Kurisu if she will return his first kiss to him. Over the course of Steins;Gate, it’s spin-offs, sequels, and related tales in the Science Adventure Series, we have seen dozens of world lines across several different attractor fields. Steins Gate Different World Lines, Steins Gate Wallpaper, Steins Gate Different World Lines. Unknown attractor field, unknown world line: "Are you ready, Okabe?". From the visual novel and anime/manga series Steins;Gate , where the term is used as a name for the ideal World Line. This twisted yarn is Attractor Field α. S: "Umm, I don't really understand those eroge things..." Kurisu's death, and discuss how the change to the Steins Gate world line worked. They have already succeeded at the creation of micro-black holes. I think the important thing to the world in the Beta world lines is not whether Okabe witnesses her death or not, but the fact that she dies, her father gets his hands on her printed time machine thesis and defects with it to Russia and this sparks an international arms race to build a time machine with other groups, including SERN, fighting to get a hold of the digital copies of her thesis, eventually leading to WWIII breaking out. john&titor@egweb.ne.jp. That hasn't changed in 2036. John, did you not experience something like this when you time traveled back 26 years? If I were to try to describe it, the world lines that are not "active" exist in a sense but are not "in existence" in the same way. Subject: Details In other words, I, who have returned to 2010, will go to 2000 from here, and write about the things you have told me. I am indeed surprised by the fact that you know about it. […], http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2018/ […] The world line (or worldline) of an object is the path that object traces in 4-dimensional spacetime.It is an important concept in modern physics, and particularly theoretical physics.. I figured I would put it this way, to keep the page length shorter. While Kurisu and Daru seem the same as always, Moeka is completely different. The MWI theory states that all possibilities can and will happen, and all timelines are equally real. My first post on this subreddit! In this case, all of your memories up until now of reading and posting on @channel would disappear, to be overwritten by memories of you doing something else. Summary: The world and time are made up of infinite world lines bundled into attractor fields that each converge to their respective field's own major occurrences. http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2021/ K: "These superpositioned world lines aren't parallel worlds, are they?" In 1.382733 β , this ability is referred to as President's Disease, as those with this ability remember Puchin as the President of Russia instead of General Secretary of the Soviet Union. Having no control over which world line and only which time period she ends up in and because of world line fluctuation/disturbance she ended up arriving in 0.571024, but every time Okabe changed which world line was active, it also changed which world line was her arrival world line. However, there is only one world line that is "active" at any given moment. Suzuha looks towards the development room. I see, so you're questioning how I've been designating numbers. Tell me, oh erotic one." Hooray! My own personal (completely unconfirmed) theory is that while the true endings of Chaos;Child, Robotics;Notes, and Robotics;Notes DaSH, happen on the Steins;Gate world line, all other ending routes from these games are part of the Chi Attractor Field. From the visual novel and anime/manga series Steins;Gate , where the term is used as a name for the ideal World Line. Steins;Gate: My Darling’s Embrace and parts of Steins;Gate: Linear Bounded Phenogram are set in the Delta Attractor Field. I know I rambled, but I hope this was somewhat helpful to someone. In this world line, this online bulletin board, @channel, unfortunately never came into existence. The answer is unknown.-. Can she be saved? The mail certainly was sent back 170 hours, as not I, but my friend got a Loto 6 ticket. How did they prove it? It seems nobody especially felt anything when I said that time does not flow in one direction. This means that while events may vary slightly, things like major catastrophes and the births and deaths of people always happen in every world line within a single attractor field—though the exact time in which said events occur may vary slightly. Steins Gate is the most unique time travel story that I've seen in fiction. There is no real meaning to making small changes to the world line. -Did the time travelling Okabe cry because he was gutting himself or because Kurisu died? However, there is only one world line that is "active" at any given moment. In the future, he not only joins the Committee of 300 but becomes the unquestioned dictator of Japan. Whenever a momentous incident occurs that would cause divergence to change, the past is reconstructed to prevent contradictions, in accordance with the law of cause and effect. And, due to the unique construction of the Steins Gate world line the prior Okabe from before the SG world line was activated must have also had reason to time travel and get stabbed, which is why his wound does not disappear as if by magic, etc. She and Daru meet. So, why does this cause the world to change to the Steins Gate world line? Along the way, many of them diverge. I haven't met anybody who holds that sort of ability, so I'm not qualified to accurately judge, but... Kyouma, you could possibly be that rare existence who holds that ability. Perhaps it won't have any meaning due to the convergence of world lines, but it's okay if it works without anyone noticing. O: "Outside the scope…?" Subject: Re: Re: Memory In the end, the Steins;Gate is a world line of true freedom with no destiny set by an attractor field. Since this happened on the Steins Gate World Line and was Causally significant to the Attractor Field Collapse, Convergence has the Okabe on Steins Gate being stabbed when he is 6,825 days old on the Steins Gate World Line. Fans speculate that world lines close to the divergence of the Steins;Gate world line, like 1.048599 (Robotics;Notes Legacy Revival) and 1.048728 (Steins;Gate: Variant Space Octet) are also part of the Chi Attractor field. Rintarou posted: Beyond the Attractor Field wall. GAME CHANNEL on YouTube. In the anime and manga she explains with a rope to Okabe and Kurisu in the Radio Building. The Peruvian coast earthquake in 2001, the election of a new pope, the outbreak of the Iraq War, China's advances in space, and so forth. You're talking about the so-called Grandfather Paradox, huh. K: "...Really? More theories that were developed based off of it were popularized. A New Way to Time Leap – Experience the world of STEINS;GATE with this remastered, ultimate version that features newly animated sequences for certain endings. He doesn't seem to be in contact with the Titor who posted 10 years ago. That theory was proven in 2036. In the VN, Suzuha explains that the Steins Gate -despite having a Beta Attractor Field divergence number 1.048596%- is like a "valley between attractor fields" and therefore unaffected by any of them. But that would cause a chicken and egg paradox, wouldn't it? Just judging by the phenomenon you described, I would say what you accomplished is indeed changing the past. S: "That's usually true, but..." You wrote that it can be explained with the Everett-Wheeler model or the many-worlds interpretation." Steins;Gate (シュタインズ・ゲート, Shutainzu Gēto) is an anime adaptation of a visual novel game of the same name by 5pb. http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2009/ Unknown attractor field, unknown world line: "Are you ready, Okabe?". However, it should be noted that as the divergence number grows closer to the 3% Gamma threshold, the Rounders grow in power and Moeka and Mr. Braun are once again members of the group. As you can see, this obviously defies the law of conservation of energy in which Steins;Gate also ignores with world line shifts. So basically, does that mean there are other possible worlds where the Year 2000 problem did occur...? Note: Not all of what Suzuha says on @channel is true, so keep reading. Steins Gate Ep 22 Steins Gate 0 Ep 08 Ending Return To Beta World Line Real Time Comparison. Even if Okabe did not kill her, her father could have killed her with his knife or something else could have happened -like how Mayuri died in many ways-; example, Kurisu is so shaken up by her father's attack or she is trying to chase after him that she falls down the stairs and breaks her neck. S: "That is the key. So in Steins;Gate, when travel to another World Line, the old World Line will cease to exist and become potential, the new one will be the active world. However, Okabe cannot change what he witnessed for that is his past that has put him in this position to save her. Steins Gate 0 … And there are hundreds of millions of these." John Titor posted: While the final result of the Beta Attractor Field (World Lines 1% to 1.99%) convergence is WW3 which is fought over Makise Kurisu's time travel thesis, Steins;Gate (1.048596%) is the only exception because the thesis is destroyed (and thus time travel doesn't exist in that World Line). Kurisu is seen in a pool of blood. If you want to supplement that explanation, then you have no choice but to believe what they say. Subject: There's something I'd like to ask Okay, I'm going to explain world lines as I understand them and for the sake of completeness of this blog post the divergence meter and number designations, how I think the first and last episodes fit together, what can be presumed to have happened in some world lines before the time loops occurred, e.g. Though he talked about all of them vaguely, they all came true. 1.8K 37 65. I think they're essentially the same thing, but why do you seem so intent on saying they're different? […] Rintarou posted: So, when he receives Our Okabe's memories, the stab wound is already there. Weekly Review — My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU Climax Episode 10, Weekly Review — The Misfit of Demon King Academy Episode 11. In this Attractor Field, Suzuha Amane does not become Hashida Suzu and travels to 1975 or 2000. […] In this attractor field, Okabe invents time travel but is able to hide the fact that he did so from SERN. By the way, this is actually the second time this phenomenon has happened. Suzuha takes a red yarn ball out of Mayuri's costume sewing set placed on the table. This causes to Rintaro to start confusing the memories he has from all the WorldLines where he had to travel to get to the Steins;Gate. The Gamma Attractor Field is seen only in Steins;Gate Drama CD Gamma: Hyde of the Dark Dimension. ChäoS;HEAd being the most with: delusions --> reality. I suspect that the mail you sent into the past changed the world line's divergence, if just a little. I still have memories from before the past was changed. This program code is from SERN's database. Each remains independent. Second, it's all your delusion or fabrication. Following the SG logic, it's because 1.130426% was the "active" world line at the time, and narratively it is because this Okabe is our Observer and the one who succeeds in breaking out of the loop, therefore he is the most interesting. This is the truth. > > 314 Steins;Gate - The Two World Line Theory. Daru: "Can you compare it to an eroge? In this world line, the world's supposed past became this: You learned the Loto6 winning numbers from a mail you got from your future self, told your friend the numbers, and your friend mistook a number upon buying the ticket. Furthermore, several future events that Titor posted about in 2000 came true. Steins;Gate is a 2009 Japanese visual novel developed by 5pb. S: "It might be close, but it's a little more rough. That's been proven by my very own experience. With a few exceptions, people who can recognize the change of world lines don't exist. Bazingax mentioned this article by the admin of the ibm5100.net wiki. The creators left a lot for us to puzzle out. Reconstruction of the world Due to the fact that Okabe has holes in his memory, it’s hard to know much about this Attractor Field. Suzuha indicates the yarn she's holding while cutting meter lengths of blue, yellow, and white yarn. Once again quoting from the ibm5100.net wiki, http://ibm5100.net/steinswiki/2011/09/23/steinsgate-episode-24-acheivementpoint-qa/. In this set of world lines, SERN and the Rounders are incredibly influential and Mayuri, Moeka, and Mr. Braun all die in 2010 (with most of the rest of the main cast dying before 2036). http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2048/ Isn’t that impossible without the perspective of a god?" […] Attractor fields do converge at a very macro level, but that spans hundreds of years. Subject: Re: Memory Bazingax asked why there are not two Okabe's in the Steins;Gate world line, the one who traveled back to the past, got wounded and therefore ends up in the hospital and a hale one who originally belongs to that world line, since that is a world line where the time machine should never have been built at anytime, right? — Infinity. I will also be referencing the Steins;Gate Official Book (ISBN9784047263741)'s Q&A section. The Time Travel lecture skipped in the anime (visual novel only). Was the Okabe who time traveled in episodes 23 and 24 the same Okabe as the one who must have time traveled in episode 1? 229 JOHN TITOR♦f8VuYnoyWU : 07/30/2010 17:36:29 Let’s break them down and see what sets them apart from each other. I want to verify whether or not what you wrote in your mail is true, so can you tell me the details of what you changed in the past? Kurisu: "So you mean you understand the structure of the world? She talks smoothly and in full sentences—showing none of the shy hesitation or need to talk through her cell phone that all other versions of her have shown. ^^; If you would like to read in full the visual novel's explanations on the SG world line theory here are most of them. Titor aspired to be a time traveler as a soldier. Therefore he would "overwrite" any Okabe who was already there. A world line that the main story's "active/observing" Okabe never went to himself. To sum it up, she is talking about how she remembers her world line of 0.000000% even though she has physically traveled to 0.571015%. Steins Gate Part 194 The B World Line Reveals An. K: "We won't get interfered with?" I'm just throwing it out there. My body trembles. I only vaguely remember it, but it went primarily like this: World Line Theory Steins Gate. For example, if in this world line, a certain momentous incident were to occur, causing a significant change in divergence, we would be transferred to World Line B. Steins;Gate is the story of Rintarou Okabe—the man who accidentally invents time travel and in doing so changes the fates of not only those around him but the world itself. Development. He forms the lab specifically to develop the time travel technology SERN is after. Rintarou posted: S: "No. He breathed heavily and tried to calm himself, before he answered, "Ready when you are". S: "I was taught that a large crossroads in Divergence exists in 2010. http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2019/ S: "And 2010." Not even for time travelers like me... Do you have any knowledge on this point? The Everett Wheeler model is correct. I'll write a reply if you give me your mail address. 689 Name: JOHN TITOR : 07/28/2010 23:31:58 Subject: Re: Very interesting When Kurisu time leaps back a short time Okabe is still there and everyone's memories are intact. S: "This year's mysterious event..." ChäoS;HEAd being the most with: delusions --> reality. Image source: 科学ADV公式 #シュタゲ10周年 on Twitter. Long explanation incoming: Deleting the first D-Mail from SERN's database causes a change in the world line because it represents a unique Major Divergence Point. Being so close in divergence from Steins Gate, the only difference is Okabe's existence. In 2036, it's been proven, right? After all, as long as it’s a world line where neither World War III or the time travel dystopia happen, any of those routes could take place. This attractor field is largely at peace, heading neither for World War III nor the Time Travel Dystopia. S: "The world's structure is like twisted yarn. M.A.D.company made some good points. She holds one end of the yarn and drops the ball on the floor. The time machine completed in 2034 is established as a system to physically jump through time and world lines. On the other side of Alpha we have the Omega Attractor Field—seen only in the Feris ending of the original Steins;Gate and in “Eternal Polaris” from Steins;Gate: Linear Bounded Phenogram. Amazon Com Cospa Steins Gate 0 Beta World Line T Shirt. -Note: I just spent some time reasoning about the time loops and about Suzuha's travels in the Alpha attractor field, but in the Linear Bounded Phenogram story focusing on Suzuha, which is arguably noncanonical in some ways but given the divergence 0.337337%, she does reason in her head that loops exist with her father having met her in 2010 and that is why he built the time machine for her to travel in in the future. Steins Gate Visual Novel Pc Review. The fact of the matter, from what I understand, is that Steins Gate's time travel is not consistent with the MWI theory. For example, If he received the divergence meter in 0.337187 and in the future made another one. Your email address will not be published. Though notably they are only erased from that point on. ... Okabe 's actions are key because he knows all that is necesary for it in theory, and the importance of Kurisu's research. S: "…We're going to escape outside the scope of this Attractor Field α we're in." So, that must have been an Okabe with a very similar set of experiences but the main story's Okabe, our Observer, probably did not travel back to 1.130426% himself...? 311 JOHN TITOR♦f8VuYnoyWU 07/30/2010 18:09:37 Back to what I was talking about before that long tangent. Steins Gate World Line Timeline, Steins Gate Cool Image, Steins Gate World Line Timeline Basically, that means that 10 years ago, you existed in a different world line than the world line we're at now. John Titor posted: I believe this is why Reading Steiner déjà vu and dreams can occur in others because those memories do exist in other "inactive" world lines for them to "recall". It's not like the flow of time is restricted to one-way traffic from past to future. The only point I don't get is why you still have memories from before the past was changed. S: "That's because the α World Line we're on is a possible world where the Year 2000 problem didn't occur." For the sake of saving myself time I am going to be quoting from this LParchive of the visual novel. -And, now we are getting into crazy philosophical territory, so further and onwards ;P-, A small note: The scenes in which Suzuha's whole explanation about world lines occurred in were different in the original VN and the anime. It has own power, it ruins, and it goes though there is a start also in the star. And, as far as I can see, not destroying that fixed idea could become a serious issue. Each heroine's route is an attractor field, and the small choices within are the individual world lines. If what you wrote in your mail is all true, then it's very interesting indeed. Also, when Okabe disappears from the Steins Gate world line in the movie everyone's "active" memories of him are erased as well. As a result of Okabe changing the metal upa to a plastic one. 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